Saturday, June 8, 2019

PC Builds IDEAS

Updated December 31, 2021 - Intel LGA1700 no Find Your Own GPU List

1. Since ginagawa ko na tong list for more than 10 years na ata sa TIPIDPC, it is time for an update.

2. PSU, unlike 10 years ago ay marami nang decent choices sa market natin. FSP, Corsair, EVGA, Seasonic, Super Flower, Thermaltake, Cooler Master mula 80+ Bronze to 80+ Titanium ay great choices except konting research sa Cooler Master at Thermaltake since minsan ay tinitipid nila ang 80+ Bronze PSUs nila. Seasonic > Super Flower > Corsair/FSP ang magaganda para sa akin. You are almost golden pag Seasonic or Super Flower ang OEM ng PSU mo.

3. Importance heirarchy, not to be confused with my build flow.

PSU - puso ng isang system, huwag tipirin kung may $$$ naman.
CPU - the more cores/threads possible, the merrier since marami nang apps that can take advantage of both core/thread count and speed
MOBO - as long na (decent) 4-phase and above with a good heatsink for an OC board is okay. More is a bit better, check the bells and whistles of what you need, maybe you don't really need that RGB mobo lighting and etc.
Monitor - IPS>VA>TN. Color Fidelity w/ speed = IPS, Decent Color Fidelity w/ speed = VA. Since modern IPS monitors are as fast at TN, there is no need to get a TN anymore unless you have budget constraints.
SSD - Ideally SSD muna kung may budget since it is getting cheaper if used as a main drive
HDD

---Etong mga piyesa ang mga importante para sa akin kasi eto ang mga piyesang pang matagalan na at mahirap palitan.

RAM
ODD - May gumagamit pa ba?

---Unless na 16gb dual channel kit ang bibilhin mo at kung wala ka naman balak sa matinding multi-tasking (yes, multitasking = RAM, hindi lang po CPU), pwede na ang 8GB for gaming even sa windows7/10 64bit pero kung kaya na mag 8GB pataas ay bakit hindi? Tried and tested na ng maraming helpers dito. ODD, either you use it or you don't pero hindi naman lahat sa atin ay marunong magformat from the USB, gagawin ko po itong guide as newb friendly as possible.

ATX
GPU

---Okay din pumili ng magandang ATX at walang masama dun pero huwag lang po pumili ng wala sa budget or mag sacrifice dun sa mga nauna sa taas para lang "wafu" ang itsura. Luckily may maayos at murang cases na from Deep Cool, Aerocool, at Tecware. Kung gusto mo ng magandang GPU, wala din masama pero pag wala sa budget, wag po mag sacrifice ng nasa taas para lang makakuha ng maganda, ipon pa po at tyaga sa IGP muna.

HSF
Keyboard
Mouse
Speakers

---Peripherals, kayang mabuhay ng rig miske wala munang matikas na HSF. Mabubuhay din ang system na hindi Roccat, Razer at Logitech ang KB at mouse. Pwede ka din mabuhay sa libreng speakers muna. Luckily compared to 10 years ago, marami narin SEA brands na maayos gaya ng Tecware at Red Dragon.

Rig assembly, my take:

Madaming newbies ang gustong magbuo ng rig nila, masasabi ko na magandang experience yan. Sa gawain na to, hindi ko na matandaan kung exactly gaano ko na katagal ginagawa ko, estimate ko ay 20 years na? Totoy palang ako ay pinagaaralan ko na po to sa shop ng tita ko sa nag buy and sell ng PC units at sa mga technicians nya More than 20 years experience na!) at gusto ko lang mag share ng ilang sikreto ko.

1. Sa mga newbies na walang idea kung saan mag sisimula, meron pong website na tinatawag na "youtube.com", sa search bar, type, "computer rig assembly". Tandaan lang sana na i-ground ang sarili para hindi masira ang compents mo dahil sa static electricity sa katawan. Pwede mo muna hawakan ang kahit anong malaking bakal na makita mo.

1.1 Sa may mga experience na, eto po ginagawa ko: Mobo tray > screw mounts > masking tape or washer > mobo > washer (ok lang din na wala) screws. Naiiwasan nito ma ground ang mobo sa case, yun lang po. Marami narin nagbago sa manufacturing process ng mobo ngayon and this tip might be useless but is still good practice.

2. Cable ties + imagination = cable management!

Please take note:

1. Kung ang tanong mo ay kung kaya mag OC ng build, yes kaya naman mag OC. Kung magtatanong kung paano, hindi po kita sasagutin hehehe, may ibang thread po dyan.

2. A single yet powerful GPU solution is always the best course, iilang developers nalang ang nagsusupport ng multi-gpu option, most of the time ay may negative impact pa sa performance sa game dahil sa driver issues.

3. Sa builds ko, function muna bago porma. Always.

4. Wala sana magtanong ng, "Sir, paano po pag itong case (insert atx here) ang gusto ko? Pwede po ba?". Please, suggestion ko lang ang atx cases, kung may extra ka pang pera, why not.

5. OCing is not really my thing ^_^ okay na sakin ang 3.8ghz ng Ryzen 5 1600 ko

6. Wala sana magsabi na, "Sir, nagtopak po yung (insert item here)". Miske po tried and tested ang isang unit or item, hindi talaga maiiwasan ang bad batch or lemon item, nararanasan ko din po yan. Kaya itago ang resibo at warranty para sa RMA.

7. Kung gusto malaman kung saan ko po nakuha mga yan, meron po tayong IFS, pa search nalang at ang bawat presyo ng parts at suggested seller's price po.

Sa mga interesado malaman kung ano PC ko (as reference) para hindi na mag PM or mag post pa:

cpu, AMD Ryzen 1600 overclocked to 3.8Ghz
mobo, Gigabyte AB350M Gaming 3
ram, 16gb 8x2 DDR4 3200Mhz Avexir Core 2
main ssd, 500gb WDC Blue 3D NAND SATA
game ssd, 256gb M.2 Lenovo
hdd, 1x 500gb WDC Blue, 1x 500gb Seagate, 1x 1TB Seagate
odd, Samsung Writemaster
gpu, 6GB Sapphire Pulse OC 5600XT
psu, Seasonic Core GC550W Gold
atx, Fractal Design Arc Mini R2
mon, Lenovo G27Q-20 165hz 1440p
kb, Custom
mse, Tecware Pulse Wireless
dac, Encore ENMA
spkr, Creative Gigaworks T20 Series II

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THE LIST

cpu, Intel Core i9 12900KF 16C/24T - 35000php
mobo, Asus TUF Z690 Plus WiFi D4 - 15500php
ram, 32gb (dual) ddr4 4000 G.Skill Trident Z Neo - 11000php
ssd, 500gb WDC black SN850 SSD M.2 NVMe Gen4 - 6450php
hdd, Seagate 2TB Barracuda ST2000DM008 - 3000php
gpu,
psu, Seasonic Prime GX Gold 1000W - 11000php
atx, Lian li Lancool Two Mesh Performance - 6000php
hsf, Scythe Fuma 2 - 3300php
hsf, Scythe LGA1700 Mounting Upgrade Kit - 560php

---91810php Just the best processor in the market while actually being a lot cheaper than the Ryzen 9 5*** series. LGA 1700 motherboard selection is pretty good too, DDR4 performance most of the time is the same as the fastest DDR5 RAM performance. Might need to check with the seller of what available cooler is good enough to cool down this beast.

 

 

 

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cpu, Intel Core i7 12700KF 12C/20T - 26000php
mobo, Asus TUF Z690 Plus WiFi D4 - 15500php
ram, 16gb (dual) ddr4 4000 G.Skill Trident Z Neo - 7450php
ssd, 500gb WDC black SN750 SSD M.2 NVMe Gen3 - 4300php
hdd, Seagate 2TB Barracuda ST2000DM008 - 3000php
gpu,
psu, Seasonic Prime GX Gold 850W - 8250php
atx, Lian li Lancool Two Mesh Performance - 6000php
hsf, Scythe Mugen 5 S - 3000php
hsf, Scythe LGA1700 Mounting Upgrade Kit - 560php

---74060php Just another high-performing i7 build

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cpu, Intel Core i5 12600KF 10C/16T - 15000php
mobo, Asus TUF Z690 Plus WiFi D4 - 15500php
ram, GSKILL RIPJAWS V 16GB DUAL DDR4 3600MHZ CL18 - 4200php
ssd, 500gb WDC black SN750 SSD M.2 NVMe Gen3 - 4300php
hdd, Seagate 2TB Barracuda ST2000DM008 - 3000php
gpu,
psu, Corsair RM750 Gold - 6350php
atx, Lian li Lancool 215X - 4900php
hsf, Scythe Mugen 5 S - 3000php
hsf, Scythe LGA1700 Mounting Upgrade Kit - 560php

---56810php These new builds are fast but is pretty expensive. Currently the i5-12600KF gives the most bang for your buck.

 

 

 

 

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cpu, Intel Core i5-11400F 6C/12T - 9500php
mobo, Asus TUF Gaming B560M Plus WiFi - 7850php
ram, GSKILL RIPJAWS V 16GB DUAL DDR4 3600MHZ CL18 - 4200php
ssd, 500gb Samsung 860 EVO m.2 SATA - 3299php
hdd, 1TB WDC Blue - 2000php
gpu,
psu, Seasonic Core GC-650 GOLD - 4100php
atx, Lian li Lancool 205M - 3300php
hsf, IDCooling SE224 XT - 1100php

---35349php

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cpu, Intel Core i5-11400F 6C/12T - 9500php
mobo, Asus Prime B560M-A - 5700php
ram, GSKILL RIPJAWS V 16GB DUAL DDR4 3600MHZ CL18 - 4200php
ssd, 500gb Samsung 860 EVO m.2 SATA - 3299php
hdd, 1TB WDC Blue - 2000php
gpu,
psu, Cooler Master MWEv2 550w Bronze - 2700php
atx, Tecware Nexus Air M2 Mesh - 1700php
hsf, IDCooling SE224 XT - 1100php

---30199php almost the same performance as above but 5000php cheaper

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cpu, Intel Core i3-10100F-4800php
mobo, Asus Prime B560M-A - 5700php
ram, GSKILL RIPJAWS V 16GB DUAL DDR4 3600MHZ CL18 - 4200php
ssd, 500gb Samsung 860 EVO m.2 SATA - 3299php
gpu,
psu, Cooler Master MWEv2 550w Bronze - 2700php
atx, Tecware Nexus Air M2 Mesh - 1700php
hsf, IDCooling SE224 XT - 1100php

---23499php

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cpu, Intel Core i3-10105 - 7500php
mobo, MSI MAG B460M Bazooka - 4400php
ram, 16gb (dual) ddr4 3200 Tforce Vulcan TUF - 3600php
hdd, WDC Blue 1TB WD10EZEX - 2000php
psu, Cooler Master MWEv2 500W White - 2100php
atx, Tecware Nexus Air M2 Mesh - 1700php

---21300php Work from home, home school build.

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MONITORS:

4K resolution, ideal for halo GPUs or workstation builds:

 

 

 

32" Asus PG32UQ ROG LED Quantum Dot IPS HDR600 144hz - 68000php
27" LG Ultragear 27GN950 Nano IPS HDR600 144hz - 60000php
28" Gigabyte M28U IPS HDR400 144hz - 36640php (said to be better than both the LG and ASUS)


2K resolution, ideal for highend GPUs or for fast paced yet detailed gaming:

27" Samsung Odyssey G7 Curve VA 240hz - 36000php
27" MSI Optix MAG274QRF IPS 165hz - 25000php
27" Gigabyte M27Q IPS 170hz - 21600php
27" Viewsonic VX2758-2KP-MHD IPS 144hz - 18000php
27" Lenovo Gaming G27Q-20 IPS 165hz - 17000php (this is my personal monitor)

1080p ideal for standard builds or for fast paced gaming:

27" BENQ MOBIUZ EX2710 IPS 144HZ - 17000php
24" LG Ultragear 24GN600-B IPS 144hz - 12000php
24" Viewsonic XG2405 1PS 144hz - 11400php
24" AOC 24G2E IPS 144hz - 11000php
24" Asus VP249QGR IPS 144hz - 11000php


ALTERNATIVES:

LGA1700 OC mobos:

MSI MPG Z690 Gaming Carbon WiFi DDR5 - 23000php
MSI MAG Z690 Tomahawk Wifi DDR4 - 16000php
Asus Prime Z690-A DDR4 - 16000php

ATX case:
Corsair 5000D Airflow - 9500php
Fractal Meshify C - 6300php
Phanteks P500A Air Mesh TG - 5800php
Phanteks P300A Air Mesh TG - 3000php
Tecware Nexus Air TG - 2200php

maTX case:
Deep Cool DC Matrexx 40 3FS TG - 2700php
Montech Air 100 Lite Mesh TG - 2000php
Jonsbo C2 - 2100php
Tecware Forge M2 TG Mesh - 2000php
Tecware Fusion - 3000php

RAM:
16gb 8GBx2 ddr4 3200 ADATA XPG D80 RGB - 4000php
16gb 8GBx2 ddr4 3200 G.Skill Trident Z Neo - 5800php
16gb 8GBx2 ddr4 3200 Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro - 4600php
16gb 8GBx2 ddr4 3200 Patriot Viper blackout - 3300php
16gb 8GBx2 ddr4 3200 Team Elite TForce Delta - 4700php

SSD:
Western Digital M.2 Blue 500GB SN570 - 3500php (just a very good DRAMLESS SSD)
Samsung 970 Evo Plus M.2 NVME 500GB - 5000php
Western Digital WD Blue 500GB 3D Nand SATA - 3500php (this is my primary SSD)
Samsung 870 Evo 500GB SATA - 4300php
Crucial MX500 500GB SATA - 3500php

Power Supplies: THESE ARE ALL MODERN DC-DC UNITS

Crossife/SLI/RTX3080/RTX3090/6800XT/6900XT:
Asus ROG Thor 1200W Platinum - 19000php (A heavily modified Seasonic Prime Platinum)
Corsair HX1000i Platinum - 11000php
Seasonic Prime PX Platinum 1300W - 14000php
Seasonic Prime GX Gold 1300W - 12000php
Seasonic Focus GX Gold 1000W - 8700php

Single GPU:
Corsair HX Platinum 750W - 7500php
Asus ROG Strix Gold 750W - 7500php (Seasonic Focus based w/ beefier heatsinks)
Seasonic Focus GX Gold 750W - 6500php
Seasonic Focus GM Gold 650W - 5000php (This is the only PSU you might need)
Cooler Master MWEv2 Gold 650W - 4800php

Budget friendly single GPU:
Seasonic Core GC650 Gold - 4200php
Seasonic Core GC550 Gold - 4000php
Cooler Master MWEv2 Gold 550W - 3400php (this is a steal)
Cooler Master MWEv2 Bronze 550W - 2700php
Cooler Master MWEv2 White 500W - 2000php


Mouse:
Zowie by BenQ EC1-B - 3700php
Cooler Master MM720 - 2600php
Cooler Master MM711 - 2400php
SteelSeries SS Rival 3 - 1700php
Tecware Pulse Wireless - 1700php (this is what I'm using)

Keyboard:
For 4K-10K budget, you can do a custom instead of getting a pre-built:
base: Keychron Q1 QMK, Akko MOD007, Akko ACR87, Akko ACR64, TOM980, TOM680, AWS84, AWS68
switches: Akko CS Starfish, Akko CS Jelly Blue, Gateron Yellow, DUROCK T1 Panda

kb, Tecware Spectre Pro RGB - 2400php

Headsets:
Sennheiser EPOS PC38X - $170 - THE BEST gaming headset
Cooler Master MH751 - 3200php - this is based on the Takstar Pro 82 headphones so this is an autowin, the MH752 has the USB 7.1 dongle
Corsair HS50 - 2600php - awesome value
Havit HV-H2006U USB 7.1 Gaming Headphone - 1100php
**Kingston HyperX Cloud Alpha - 3800php
SteelSeries SS Arctis 3 - 3390php
SteelSeries SS Arctis 7 - 7600php

 

 

 

 

HSF: CHECK FIRST WITH THE SELLER IF LGA1700 COMPATIBLE OR IF YOU NEED TO PURCHASE A SEPARATE MOUNTING KIT
Arctic Cooling Freezer 34 eSports DUO - 2500php
Cryorig M9 Plus - 1500php
**Deepcool Gammaxx 400 CPU Cooler/ID-Cooling SE224 - 1200php
ID-Cooling SE226 - 2200php
Scythe Mugen 5S - 3000php

**Probably the only heatsink fan that you'll actually ever need

 

 

 

 

Case fans:
Arctic P12 PST CO - 420php
Cryorig QF120 Performance 83cfm - 500php
ID Cooling DF12025 RGB double ball bearing - 530php
**ID Cooling XF12025 SD-K 75Cfm - 250php


**The only case fan you'll actually ever need

Thermal paste:
IDCooling IDTG15 - 150php
Arctic Cooling MX4 - 400php
Cryorig CP5 - 500php
**Noctua NT-H1 - 500php
Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut - 420php

**Probably the best locally available TIM in the market

***CAD BUILDS***

 

 

 

 

Any build from the 3400G and above can run CAD/PS/LR/PR/Sketchup/Vray/Audacity just take note of:

*Some CAD applications are single threaded and like high frequency processors
*Vray loves a lot of cores/threads

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/learn-explore/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/System-requirements-for-AutoCAD-2018.html

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/learn-explore/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/Support-for-multi-core-processors-with-AutoCAD.html

https://techgage.com/article/a-performance-review-amds-ryzen-5-2600x-ryzen-7-2700x-processors/3/

https://www.cgdirector.com/best-cpu-for-rendering/

https://blog.alignex.com/solidworks-performance-battle-amd-ryzen-vs-intel-video

http://www.velocitymicro.com/blog/geforce-vs-quadro-whats-the-difference/

CAVEAT EMPTOR - the principle that the buyer alone is responsible for checking the quality and suitability of goods before a purchase is made.

 

 

 

 

 

credit FAKURYU ng TPC, salamat pare 

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